GROUP 8 Featuring: Louie Amendola, Vinnie Bruzzese & Michaela Douglas. Providing commentary on Philosophical Readings in the 2008 Spring Semester.

Apr 29, 2008

Hume in general

Throughout the Hume book I feel that there was a large mix of subjects. God, politics, mind & body, and personal feelings. I feel that Hume related God & politics alot. I feel that he might had felt that religion and politics were almost the same. He also related to alot of personal feelings and experiences which made the book slightly easier to read, but I do not agree with his mixing of religion and political parties.

Hume Pg 86

"The wise lend a very academic faith to every report which favours the passion of the reporter; whether it magnifies his country, his family, or himself, or in any other way strikes in with his natural inclinations and propensities. But what better temptation than to appear a missionary, a prophet, an ambassador from heaven?"

I feel that Hume starts off talking about a literal thing, like a reporter and how he basically enlarges the picture on things happening in life. Then Hume goes to talking about God and heaven again. I think what he is saying is that people should focus more on reporting and learning about God than focusing more on the world we live in now.

Apr 22, 2008

Hume

While reading Hume's book I notice that as the story goes on he starts to contradict things. It seems as if nothing in the book is constant. As a writer Hume seems to be quite jumpy, and focus' on more of a down to earth life aspect. There isn't much that I feel relates to God or a spiritual side. With so many different aspects on the mind it makes it hard to follow where he is going.

Hume Page 41

"It seems a proposition, which will not admit of much dispute, that all our ideas are nothing but copies of our impressions, or, in other words, that it is impossible for us to think of any thing, which we have not antecedently felt, either by our external or internal senses."

From what it seems to me is that Hume is starting to contradict himself here. Earlier in the book he was talking about how we can excel past the limits of our own minds, and here it seems that he is trying to tell us that we are all pre-programmed. I am interpreting it as if he wants us to think it is impossible for us to think farther than our external and internal senses.

Hume Page 16

"All reasonings concerning matter of fact seem to be founded on the relation of Cause and Effect. By means of that relation alone we can go beyond the evidence of our memory and senses."


I agree with Hume 100% here. I feel that we can go way beyond what is in our minds. There is so much that a person can physically and mentally do without being able to explain it. I do not think that we always have to have a cause and effect, I think we can easily have an effect with no cause for doing that effect.

Hume Page 7

"Nor can there remain any suspicion, that this science is uncertain and chimerical; unless we should entertain such a scepticism as is entirely subversive of all speculation, and even action."

I feel what Hume is trying to say is that it is very blunt that the loves we live are VERY uncertain, and the only way we can make our lives less uncertain is if we speculate. But if we speculate our lives are still slightly uncertain due to the fact that speculation can be wrong. Not everything you have thought up in life has come true of has worked out the way you want it to be.

Apr 3, 2008

Contemplation

Page 97. Par 1


"The next faculty of the mind, whereby it makes a farther progress towards knowledge, is that which I call retention or the keeping of those simple ideas which from sensation or reflection it hath received. This is done two ways. First, by keeping the idea which is brought into it for some time actually in view, which is called contemplation."

I agree with locke when he says retention has to do with the progression of knowledge, but I don't feel that is is just a reflection or image that is stuck in your head. I feel it is more than that and that he is not giving credit to the human mind for remembering and learning new facts and ideas.

Locke and God

After reading the first two books of Locke, I feel that he bases alot of things on God. I feel that he is not as clear as Descartes. Througout the books I would pick up on key lines such as "I must therefore beg a little truce with prejudice and forbearance of censure till I have been heard out in the sequel of this discourse, being very willing to submit to better judgements."

In the beginning of the quote I feel he is talking about life on Earth and how there are problems and that no one is truely clean of sin. When he moves on and says "the sequel of this discourse" I feel that he is talking about Heaven or an after live (the second part of this life). And at the end I feel when he says he is very willing to submit to better judgements I feel that the better judgements will come from God, or better judgements is the actual God.

Conscience no proof of any innate moral rule

Page 30, Par. 8

"To which I answer, that I doubt not but, without being written on their hearts, many men may, by the same way that they come to the knowledge of other things, come to assent to several moral rules, and be convinced of their obligation. Others also may come to be of the same mind, from their education, company, and customs of their country; which persuasion, however got, will serve to set conscience on work, which is nothing else but our own opinion or judgement of the moral rectitude or pravity of our own actions. And if conscience be a proof of innate principals, contraries may be innate principals; since some men, with the same bent of conscience prosecute what others avoid."


I feel this is talking about how we make our own decisions in life. I feel that it is describing that we as people can asorb information from other people, and can be convinced, but we always act on our own opinion or hunch. I also think he is saying of our conscience is working off of information takin from others we have a bent sole. I feel that the entire passage is basically stating that we make decisions at our own free will.

Apr 1, 2008

How Primary Qualities Produce Their Ideas

Page 86 Par. 11

"The next thing to be considered is, how bodies produce ideas in us; and that is manifestly by impulse, the only way which we can conceive bodies operate in."

I feel that when we talk about the mind and body this phrase is very specific to that. He is talking about how he feels that bodies operate on their own, and do not use the mind. He talks about how they operate by impulse, but I feel he is completly wrong. The mind is clearly used in the operation of the body, and I also feel that he contradicts himself because he talks about and refers to God throughout the two books. Any person that is going to refer to God must know that the mind and the body operate as one.

Pleasure and Pain

PAGE 82. Par. 6

"Thought what I have here said may not perhaps make the ideas of pleasure and pain clearer to us than our own experience does, which is the only way we are capable of having the; yet the consideration of the reason why they are anexed to so many other ideas, serving to give us due sentiments of the wisdom and goodness of the Sovereign Disposer of all things..."

I feel that Locke is trying to make a refrence to God. He is saying that we can not truely experience pleasure and pain until we meet our creator. I feel that when he is talking about the Sovereign Disposer he is referring to God. He is talking about how we are givin wisdom and goodness and can not experance anything different until a later pont in time, when God wants us to experence pleasure and pain.